1 Corinthians 15:5

“And that he was seen of Cephas, then of the twelve:”
King James Version (KJV)

Other Translations of 1 Corinthians 15:5

And that he was seene of Cephas, then of the twelue.
- King James Version (1611) - Compare to scan of original 1 Corinthians chapter 15

and that He appeared to Cephas, then to the twelve.
- New American Standard Version (1995)

and that he appeared to Cephas; then to the twelve;
- American Standard Version (1901)

And he was seen by Cephas; then by the twelve;
- Basic English Bible

and that he appeared to Cephas, then to the twelve.
- Darby Bible

And that he was seen by Cephas; and after that by the eleven.
- Douay Rheims Bible

And that he was seen by Cephas, then by the twelve:
- Webster's Bible

and was seen by Peter, and then by the Twelve.
- Weymouth Bible

and that he appeared to Cephas, then to the twelve.
- World English Bible

and that he was seyn to Cephas, and aftir these thingis to enleuene;
- Wycliffe Bible

and that he appeared to Cephas, then to the twelve,
- Youngs Literal Bible

RichFairhurst's comment on 2022-03-19 00:40:13:

It can't mean what you say here or in Romans to be the corralary to anything said about Christ. Romans is devastating to your position and your view is untenable. It can't be carried through the parts of that passage and leave Paul saying anything sensible about a type/antitype relationship. If the point of Adam is only the physical death all men suffer, then how can Paul say the opposite of that in Christ is the gift of grace, justification, the gift of righteousness shall reign in life, justification of life, grace did much more abound, and so grace might reign through righteousness to eternal life.

Obviously Paul is not merely making a case that Christ gives physical resurrection as a to counter to the physical death brought by Adam to all men. The case being made by Paul for Christ is the counter agent to the second death in all of its aspects. The type does not set up the antitype if the type only poses the danger of physical death and nothing more. Paul is proving far too much in opposition to merely that. I reject your proposed interpretation out of hand.

RichFairhurst's comment on 2022-03-18 22:17:56:

Originally I wrote a post saying that trying to show that "shall be made alive" in 1 Corinthians 15:22 is more than just physical resurrection may be trying to prove too much. But I was wrong.

The word translated "shall be made alive" zoopoiethesontai is derived from a word that is used in the New Testament for being resurrected or quickened to eternal life. Here are the other passages that use derivatives of this word:

John 5:21

John 6:63

Romans 4:17

Romans 8:11

1 Corinthians 15:36

1 Corinthians 15:45

2 Corinthians 3:6

Galatians 3:21

1 Peter 3:18

This word cannot mean life common to all men living and moving and having their being in Christ, nor can it mean simply resurrection to either eternal life or the second death. Under this meaning I am persuaded that the word "all" in 1 Corinthians cannot be an unlimited universal "all" and in both instances where it is used in this passage it is limited by the words "in Adam" and "in Christ". "In Christ" appears to be used in this passage by Paul in a similar way to the way he uses that phrase and the phrase "in Him" in Ephesians.

Ephesians 1:2-4,7,10,13,20

Ephesians 2:6-7,10,13,20-22

Ephesians 3:6,11-12

Ephesians 4:32

This also suggests that "all men" in Romans 5:18 is limited by the "one man" being referenced, either Adam or Christ.

The connection that Adam and Christ share in common with the "all" in 1 Corinthians 15:22 and Romans 5:8 has several different interpretations that have been offered. Personally I believe there is a federal headship connection. "Things done by one may be imputed unto others, propter relationem foederalem, because of a covenant relation between them." Hodge

I also believe Adam and Christ are uniquely qualified and appointed by God to be the first fruits of their respective seed. No other human beings can be presented before God in the way they can.

RichFairhurst's comment on 2022-03-16 04:38:29:

And I'm saying you have proven nothing from this passage either way. It isnt the real source of the doctrine of original sin to begin with. Where the doctrine comes from without doubt is Romans 5. If you don't deal with Romans 5, you have proven nothing.

And if you destroy that doctrine are you also destroying the doctrine of imputed righteousness from faith in Christ? Are you intending to do that or not? If you are saying Adam's sin has nothing to do with our condemnation, how and why does Christ's righteousness have anything to do with our righteousness and salvation in Romans? Or are you saying it doesn't? If so, state your case for whatever position you take from Romans 5 where Paul makes the case for imputed righteousness by faith and draws a connection to Adam's one transgression.

marke's comment on 2022-03-16 03:08:42:

Romans 5

12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:

13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.

14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.

15 But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.

16 And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the gift: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the free gift is of many offences unto justification.

17 For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.)

18 Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.

19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.

20 Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound:

21 That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord.

Of course I believe that all men inherit the sin nature from Adam, but nobody is condemned to hell forever for Adam's sin. Sinners are condemned to hell for their own sin. There is a difference.

God rebuked those who misrepresented the truth by claiming God was judging them for the sins of others, including their fathers (Adam was the father of sinners). In Ezekiel 18 He rebuked the claim that "the fathers have eaten sour grapes and the children's teeth are set on edge.

RichFairhurst's comment on 2022-03-15 23:48:13:

I would also say that using 1 Corinthians 15 to prove or disprove the doctrine of original sin is trying to prove too much. The doctrine of original sin In Adam and imputed righteousness is found in Romans 5. Where these two chapters overlap is the assertion of the universality of physical death in Adam and the universality of physical resurrection in Christ. The final judgement that follows both of these events is not the focus of 1 Corinthians 15 at all. It is simply asserting that ALL mankind die physically as a result of Adam's death and ALL mankind physically will be resurrected as a result of Christ's resurrection.

Paul is focused more on the believer's relationship to that event in this chapter because false doctrines in the church of Corinth. They were being misled to believe the resurrection wouldn't occur at all and that they and their dead loved had no hope of being resurrected, much like the Thessalonians were being misled that they had missed the Second Coming and that they and their dead loved were now facing God's wrath and God's judgement without Christ. Does anyone try to prove or disprove the doctrine of original sin from 1 Thessalonians or 2 Thessalonians? They shouldn't. So we shouldn't push 1 Corinthians 15 to do that either.

However Romans deals with imputed righteousness that is not our own like Abraham had by faith, and Paul asserts that is exactly what we have by faith in Christ. He then shows a correspondence to how sin worked in Adam. If you want to disprove the doctrine of original sin, you have to deal with Romans 5 to do that. Saying it isn't Paul's doctrine in 1 Corinthians 15 proves nothing one way or the other on that specific aspect, at least in my view. But to the extent the two chapters overlap on the doctrines of death in Adam and resurrection in Christ, that could play a role in how sin is dealt with in Romans 5. But context matters just as much in Roman 5 as it does in 1 Corinthians 15, so keep both in context.

RichFairhurst's comment on 2022-03-15 14:32:09:

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The verb tense for "die" is Present Indicative Active, but the verb tense for "shall be made alive" is Future Indicative Passive.

The future indicative expresses the occurrence of an action in future time.

The passive voice implies that the subject did not initiate that action or state, but is the recipient of it.

Living and moving and having my being in Christ should not need to wait until a future event occurs and I feel reasonably active with Christ in those things now, especially moving, along with everyone else if this is talking about the curent state of being alive that is experienced by believers and unbelievers alike. Seems strange to suddenly bring that up in the middle of a chapter entirely devoted to defending the doctrine of the necessity of Christ's resurrection and doubter questions about the nature and future state of believers following the resurrection.

Saying 1 Corinthians 15:22 isn't the resurrection is ridiculous. Here is that passage in context.

1 Corinthians 15:17-24

17 And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins. 18 Then they also which are fallen asleep in Christ are perished. 19 If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men most miserable. 20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept. 21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. 22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. 23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. 24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

"shall be made alive" is the resurrection dude. And ALL mankind will be resurrected by Christ by the end of verse 24, either to eternal life or the lake of fire.

Out of context you can make a verse say anything, and you have done that here.

RichFairhurst's comment on 2022-03-15 13:51:07:

The verb tense for "die" is Present Indicative Active, but the verb tense for "shall be made alive" is Future Indicative Passive.

The future indicative expresses the occurrence of an action in future time.

The passive voice implies that the subject did not initiate that action or state, but is the recipient of it.

Living and moving and having my being in Christ should not need to wait until a future event occurs and I feel reasonably active with Christ in those things now, especially moving, along with everyone else if this is talking about the state of being alive that is experienced universally by believers and unbelievers alike. Seems strange to suddenly bring that up in the middle of a chapter entirely devoted to defending the doctrine of the necessity of Christ's resurrection and doubter questions about the nature and future state of believers following the resurrection.

Saying 1 Corinthians 15:22 doesn't reference the resurrection is ridiculous. Here is that passage in context.

1 Corinthians 15:17-23

17 And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins. 18 Then they also which are fallen asleep in Christ are perished. 19 If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men most miserable. 20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept. 21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. 22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. 23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.

"shall be made alive" is the resurrection dude.

Out of context you can make a verse say anything, and you have definitely done that here.

RichFairhurst's comment on 2022-03-15 12:35:57:

"In Adam all die" probably makes sense to apply "all" as including past, present and future, although knowing the exact tense of the Greek verb "die" would tell you if that is legitimate. However, the English translation "in Christ shall all be made alive" indicates a verb tense in the Greek was used that only points to the future, not the past or the present. Greek verb tenses have more nuance than in English, and Paul knows how to use them. So knowing the exact Greek verb tense would be pretty critical in coming up with an interpretation, since it seems Paul chose a different verb tense for a reason.

I don't think you can treat the verb with in Adam the same as the verb with in Christ, and from what I can tell your interpretation doesn't seems to recognize that.

GiGi's comment on 2022-03-15 10:00:10:

Thank you Marke,

That is uplifting analysis.

marke's comment on 2022-03-15 07:17:34:

1 Corinthians 15:22

1 Corinthians 15:22

For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

This verse does not mean that every sinner born on earth will go to hell any more than it means every sinner born on earth will be made alive in Christ. However, every sinner now on earth lives, moves, and has his being because of Christi just as ever human who ever lived or lives now will experience death in the flesh because of Adam.

John 3 tells us that sinners who do not believe in Jesus are already condemned. Why are they condemned, because they were born of Adam? No, they are condemned because they have not believed in Jesus. God does not condemn sinners to hell for the sins of others, but for their own sin.

Ezekiel 18:20

The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.

Carleton's comment on 2021-05-02 19:30:43:

Good morning Chris, the simplicity, the economy, the modesty in Christ Jesus binds together our knowledge in Him.

Thank you.

Chris's comment on 2021-04-30 18:47:10:

Thanks Carleton. Another great story of how the Lord moves in both the unsaved & witnessing Christian to bring about the salvation of the lost. What we might think as of little consequence in sharing our lives or time with another, can reap mighty results in the Hands of God. This story should renew our desire to share whatever we can, however mediocre, for the blessing of others.

Carolyn Williams's comment on 2021-04-30 11:45:55:

A woman in our bible study group asked: whay are the gifts of the Spirit? Who in the Bible show us an example of each gift of the Spirit being used?

Thank you

Carleton's comment on 2021-04-30 06:28:08:

I was up close to seeing a born again experience happen in now a brother from reading a children's bible story book. This person came to the US with another language as his own to see what happened to his older brother who had been born again here while travelling. This older couple used the children's bible story book in morning devotions with this young man for several months because he could understand the simple English words with the pictures. One morning he suddenly understood his present position in God as a sinner and by faith reached out to Jesus for salvation and was renewed in the Lord's Spirit. He walked a different life and understanding with peace with God and man from that day on. He has raised a Christian family where children now are also born again. All from a simple country older couple using a bible story book for he and through him others to be saved.

Chris's comment on 2021-04-30 04:49:30:

Hello Richard. KJB Online is a public website & so for obvious reasons phone numbers & other contact information are not allowed & what others see on the Site is what I see as well. So your number wasn't published to me.

You've obviously done a lot of work in this area (& possibly others), for which you would need a Website of your own to make your work available for others to read, digest & discuss. This medium is inadequate for that type of presentation, only for relatively short sharp responses. I have sometimes used several 'pages' for a question that required a detailed response, which was deemed too 'wordy' by some. So I understand your problem; a personal Website would be the way to go & I could engage with that.

You seem to have detected my character as one who has "rejected & criticized the Glorious thingswriting obtuse & obfuscating words". I might have done so if I knew what those 'Glorious things' were. I think that you may not be aware also, that many on this Site are well read in the Scriptures, having read through the Bible several times over. To those who don't know the Word well enough, your discovery of such things might indeed pique their interest in their quest to learn more of the present & future. But for others, we already come with a solid understanding of that which is revealed & if we're presented with something that is extra-biblical (e.g. over 100 references to the U.S. in the OT), then it becomes something of a personal decision to accept or reject. Since I have very little to go on, except for the short discussion on Ephraim & Dan, I'm sorry I haven't detected anything in your comments to urge me to pursue this. Thank you for your time Richard & may you continue to enjoy the Lord's blessings.

Richard Duff's comment on 2021-04-30 02:03:07:

Hello Chris,

These things are far too lengthy to type into this format allowing a max. of only 2,000 characters. Although I have over the years typed some of these things up, that total is not even probably a fourth of what I have found, to which I have anyway still probably typed up over 200,000 words....so you can see that is a problem.

Perhaps you know someone here in the States that you can phone-connect with, and then they can "conference-call" to me and I can then spend a few hours showing both of you these things(?) We could also do it in multiple calls-conversations, if you and he would like, to not be on the phone quite so long each time.

Or, if you can somehow get me your email address...since this - this at first seeming sound, good, and valuable site, but then proving to be counter-productive - will not allow folks to swap personal contact information so as to further accommodate, build, and nurture John chapter 17 Glorious True Christian relationships. Knowing of no other way to contact them, I have even written the site managers directly in this system, asking them to let me send my contact info to others; but these folks have not yet responded to me, yea or nay. (Did my phone number even get to you in the previous email? On my end here the site management apparently deleted the number, they returning to me my own writing, sending it back to me about a day later, the phone number blocked out...but, again, did my number make it through to you?)

But now, Chris - although I hope I am wrong, and that you will somehow still call me and spend the time needed on the phone to indeed prove me wrong...but I sadly now know what and who you are - you have now twice in your responses rejected and criticized the Glorious things I was telling you of, writing obtuse and obfuscating words of supposed "problems", rather than, as a True Christian would, responding with alert interest and full attempt at belief with alive excited desire to see and know these Truths.

Chris's comment on 2021-04-29 23:08:36:

Hello Richard. I can understand that Ephraim is seen as Joseph, but why mention Joseph, when his other son, Manasseh is mentioned separately in Rev 7? Joseph was generally seen by his sons' names, but here, Manasseh is separated, Ephraim is not mentioned, but Joseph is.

And of course, Dan is missing from Rev 7 & as you referred to Judges 5:17, "Gilead abode beyond Jordan: and why did Dan remain in ships? Asher continued on the sea shore, and abode in his breaches." Both the territories of Dan & Asher were hard against the Mediterranean with their major ports of Joppa & Tyre respectively. You seem to have found a special answer to this, & since calling you won't be possible, you may like to share here what you have learned that is different to what Judges 5:17 indicates. As well as that mysterious verse that gives inconclusive proof to use only the KJV to the rejection of all others and the USA-in-the KJV proofs. You're keeping all of us on tenterhooks. Thank you.

Carleton's comment on 2021-04-29 11:40:19:

I support Brother Chris in this second paragraph, when we follow this way, we have Jesus present with us always and we fall into less error and more importantly do not hinder others coming to Christ. The Bible is complete in itself, we just need to be humble believers. I am thankful how God leads in His people's gifts.

Thank you!

Richard Duff's comment on 2021-04-29 05:28:40:

Howdy again from a while ago. I did not have enough "characters" to mention this before.

Re: the KJV translation, have you found the absolute Truth, the obscure Old Testament verse in which God makes it clear He wants those that will be True to Him to indeed use His KJV?! I have seen discussions from writers for years with all the reasons/arguments to accept and use the KJV only...and those are all well and good...accurate as far as I know...BUT!...ONE VERSE IS ALL that is EVER NEEDED!!

12 or 13 years ago I was going through a deep & detailed study of the O.T. ...and I HIT IT ONE DAY!! The moment I read it, I KNEW!! God has it right there in an otherwise obscure OT verse that says to use His KJV...and that all others should be shunned. So, I went to Bible book stores in a few different cities in my travels over the next year or two; and to secular book stores also, as in them I found they even carry more versions and publishers than Bible/Christian book stores do. In all this time I found about a dozen-and-a-half other versions...and all were wrong... none had it like the KJV.

Then, knowing there were more than just those roughly 18, I spent a good bit of time finding all I could on-line, which came to a total of 35 more, now equaling 53 non-KJV's. So that was a total of 54...and all the other 53 are God-taught to be, at best, shunned or very, very cautiously used - and that is only maybe 2 or 3 of them - while all else are versions from which a person CANNOT EVEN BE SAVED.

Now, no personal criticism intended, Chris, but I would imagine I am correct when I say that, until I also show you that AWESOME, AWESOME, verse - which I later realized IS ALSO ANOTHER ONE THAT ABSOLUTELY SHOWS AND PROVES AMERICA IN THE BIBLE - you will certainly have a hard time believing this I say! And since that time a dozen years ago...I have found several more KJV-only & USA-in-the KJV proofs. So, as per that prior email, call me and I will gladly show you! Richard

Richard Duff's comment on 2021-04-29 03:14:40:

Hello Again, Chris,

Wow...that is awesome to me that you have been right here before! What a thing!!

But other than that, I think you have missed the point and Truth that indeed Joseph IS Ephraim, and that is what is being said in Revelation, especially being that Manasseh, the other half-tribe of Joseph in addition to Ephraim, is also separately listed...thus a FULL 12 - TWELVE - Tribes-of-Israel NAMES...but totaling only ELEVEN TRIBES are in Revelation chapter 7's TWELVE NAMES LISTING...12...BUT NOT DAN!! Revelation 7 is the only listing in the Bible of the 12 Tribes where Dan is missing!! And being that Revelation is discussing and REVEALING by Almighty God Jesus Christ things END-TIME...that makes the Judges 5:17 question of God's so, so critical for the Bible believer to come to the answer of that will absolutely prove THE END IS HERE!

So then going back to that I was saying before, and saying it a little differently, it is deeply alluded to that the student must pray and look for, per the 3 passages, Genesis 49:16-18, Judges 5:17 mid-clause, and Revelation 7, the "and why did Dan remain in ships?"! That is what I studied to find some years ago and was asking you about; and that I would like to show you, being that you have not yet found the answer to that question of God's!!

So let me say and ask it this way: do you have means to phone me here in the U.S.? I have never called long-distance on my cell phone, and have no idea how to set such a thing up. So, if you can?!...**** is my number!

Then, I am not talking any "prophetical interpretations"; nor am I at all involved with anyone else in finding these things in hundreds and even thousands of my-own-by-myself hours of study over the years...these things are clear and guaranteed, and I am sure a couple hours on the phone together would have you absolutely convinced of and thrilled at these things! Want to do it?!!

I am completely flexible time-wise, so you pick it! Cordially, Richard

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