Hebrews 12:17

“For ye know how that afterward, when he would have inherited the blessing, he was rejected: for he found no place of repentance, though he sought it carefully with tears.”
King James Version (KJV)

Other Translations of Hebrews 12:17

For yee know how that afterward when hee would haue inherited the blessing, hee was reiected: for hee found no place of repentance, though he sought it carefully with teares.
- King James Version (1611) - Compare to scan of original Hebrews chapter 12

For you know that even afterwards, when he desired to inherit the blessing, he was rejected, for he found no place for repentance, though he sought for it with tears.
- New American Standard Version (1995)

For ye know that even when he afterward desired to inherit the blessing, he was rejected; for he found no place for a change of mind `in his father,' though he sought is diligently with tears.
- American Standard Version (1901)

For you have knowledge that even long after, when he was desiring the blessing for his heritage, he was turned away, though he made his request frequently and with weeping; because the past might not be changed.
- Basic English Bible

for ye know that also afterwards, desiring to inherit the blessing, he was rejected, (for he found no place for repentance) although he sought it earnestly with tears.
- Darby Bible

For know ye that afterwards, when he desired to inherit the benediction, he was rejected; for he found no place of repentance, although with tears he had sought it.
- Douay Rheims Bible

For ye know that afterward, when he would have inherited the blessing, he was rejected: for he found no place of repentance, though he sought it carefully with tears.
- Webster's Bible

For you know that even afterwards, when he wished to secure the blessing, he was rejected; for he found no opportunity for undoing what he had done, though he sought the blessing earnestly with tears.
- Weymouth Bible

For you know that even when he afterward desired to inherit the blessing, he was rejected, for he found no place for a change of mind though he sought it diligently with tears.
- World English Bible

For wite ye, that afterward he coueitinge to enherite blessing, was repreued. For he foond not place of penaunce, thouy he souyte it with teeris.
- Wycliffe Bible

for ye know that also afterwards, wishing to inherit the blessing, he was disapproved of, for a place of reformation he found not, though with tears having sought it.
- Youngs Literal Bible

Janet D's comment on 2022-03-20 16:49:45:

Just now read your response, thank you brother!

Philip's comment on 2022-03-16 06:51:13:

Greetings Janet,

I hear ya! I feel you! We all go through the same things at various times. The key is to "endure"; stay focused on the Word and Jesus and the Holy Spirit, trusting Him and not your own understanding or that of others. Just STAND on what you believe and what you know. The rest will come as needed.

I recommend you stay in the King James Bible as much as possible. These perversions that pass fir Scripture today should be burned.

I have left churches for the same reason that you contemplate. I can't tell you to leave your church; that is something you must work out with the Spirit. I will say that many are vexed by the teaching of these versions but don't understand why. You seem to understand why.

Let the Spirit lead and don't fear change if needed! You are stronger and wiser than you know when do.

Stay in the Word and stay blessed.

Janet D's comment on 2022-03-15 16:20:29:

Thank you for the encouragement to not overthink things-as I find myself at such unrest when I do.

I am in the word and am beyond grateful for more time to study the word now that I am retired.

Since I have been studying more, several things have come my way.

The question of saved vs being saved, also the differences in Bible translations.

The church I go to uses the NIV, which I am now wondering about as the NIV says being saved vs saved, being sanctified vs sanctified.

Oh boy, how can there be so much division or differing interpretations!

It is very important, in fact nothing else matters beyond knowing Gods truth, for we are to go and tell the world about Him and his one true gospel. We are to be one in Christ!

So do I leave my church and find another where they use a translation that preaches saved vs being saved?

Thanks ahead of time

Jesse's comment on 2022-03-15 08:18:53:

Janet,

It says follow peace with all people, and the term follow is literally continually be pursuing. If I were to have the Lord's permission to insert a little note here, it would be "Now concerning your relationship with your fellow teammates, continually pursue peace with your brethren, the one's you are running the race with."

Follow after peace, and then it says, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord:

Who are you supposed to be seeing? The Lord! If you get off the track, if you get out of running the race, your eyes are no longer on Jesus.

Something else I am looking at in this verse is the word holiness. You are correct in saying "As long as we live in our earthly bodies we (our flesh nature) will not be 'sinless'." Our flesh is corrupt. The only holiness we have is Christ in us. And it is Christ in us that gives us the ability to be continually pursuing peace with our brothers and sisters in Christ.

Phil Murray's comment on 2022-03-15 08:15:38:

Hello Janet,

Holy simply means "separate" in the Hebrew (and Greek) language, and it simply is a commandment to separate ourselves from "worldly" living, thinking, desires, etc. True no one is or ever will be without sin in this life, for ALL have sinned and come short of the Glory of God. But all through the gospels we are encouraged to "crucify" the flesh daily and walk in the Spirit. Be ye not "unequally yoked" with unbelievers, is the basic premise in that context. Don't over-think it, sister, or you will set yourself up for failure. Been there; done that! Lol! Just BE JANET, and believe; the Holy Spirit will guide you the rest of the way.

God bless and keep you!

Suze's comment on 2022-03-15 06:45:53:

If you believe in Jesus , that he is the Son of God and you have been baptized into him then he is your righteousness and your sins are forgiven . As long as you try very hard to live your life in a way that is acceptable to God , you will still sin some times , we all do , as long as you are trying and when you do fail you talk to God about it and ask Him to forgive you through the name of Jesus Christ , then you will be forgiven .

Free's comment on 2022-03-15 02:52:03:

Dear "Janet D", Body, soul and Spirit all belong to the Lord. Jesus came to earth for us in a carnal state. Compared to Him, we are sinners. He was/is not. But on the Cross God neeeded too leave Him, so Jesus could die. Jesus had to use his last strength in a few words. Mark 15:34

When we say we are not sinners it is because Jesus simply, the one / those who believe in Me will be saved. John 14:6. We are washed clean of what He bled on Calvary. John 13:10 What was before Christ was a lawful deed. Is now by His offer given us freedom from the law. Jesus fulfilled the whole law.

I can not give you any shortcuts. But for your own part, read the New Testament and ask the Holy Spirit for guidance. Also read the references to the old testament. Get the assurance of salvation dear.

The apostle Paul writes a lot about Sanctification, the body of sin and salvation in his letters, example Romans 8

Be and stay blessed in His Holy Name, love u in Christ.

Janet D's comment on 2022-03-14 17:50:30:

Reading the people Bible commentary for Heb 12:14, it says: pure and sinless lives, without a holy life no one shall be in fellowship with God. No man shall see the Lord.

Can someone please comment on this,

As long as we live in our earthly bodies we (our flesh nature) will not be 'sinless',

Thank you.

Chris's comment on 2020-12-22 23:26:49:

All the four Gospels give some narrative about Jesus' baptism by John.

Matthew chapter 3; Mark chapter 1; Luke chapter 3; and John chapter 1.

Debbie's comment on 2020-12-22 20:54:30:

Wasn't Jesus baptized by John the Baptist? If so, would you please give me the Bible verse(s) that explain it?

Steven Spencer's comment on 2020-12-21 19:12:55:

Hi Zybejta, I'm unsure about the dreams, May i ask have you received Christ as your Lord and savior? I do Know he would want that, and Hebrews 10-25 says do not forsake the assembly. and When and if its safe he do want you to find a good bible teaching church and fellowship

Zybejta M Marashi's comment on 2020-12-20 14:36:03:

I was born into a communist country and raised athiest. when I was 23 yrs Old I defected communism! March 21, 1991 immigrated to the USA. Dec 8 got baptized & married in church! That nigh I see God and Jesus in my dream. Since then I kept seeing dreams! I Jesus healing me, John the Baptist, Haven, rapture, one months before the tsunami happened I see it on my dream! During the election 2016 when I voted for Trump because GOD told me to vote for him, and although I voted for Hillary 1st time & 2nd Time Romney! I was democrat for the past 25 yrs! I feel thirsty for knowledge of god but I don't feel going to any church! I really like to know what all this mean?

Chris's comment on 2020-11-06 15:08:41:

Michelle, what a sad story you've shared. Your situation would rank high on a list of the many griefs a person can experience: that of not receiving love in a marriage, rather "manipulations & abuses". You have been despised & rejected & to then find solace, love & understanding in another, is indeed a natural human tendency. But the conviction & despair resulting from your actions has brought you now to this point of sorrow as well as the gnawing sense of the Spirit's absence.

Your sorrow which must lead to repentance WILL find the Father's forgiveness. 2 Cor 7:10, "For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of: but the sorrow of the world worketh death". This speaks of the difference between a true sorrow that comes from a heart that belongs to the Lord as opposed to the World's sorrow (here, means 'regret') which avails nothing. You are truly under conviction of your actions & this conviction can only be from the Holy Spirit Who longs to draw you back into cleanliness & harmony with the Lord.

As much as you now feel the love & companionship that has been missing in your life for so long, the Word of God is clear about entering into a second marriage: 1 Corinthians 7:10-16. Divorce is an extreme permissible act, but re-marriage is not allowed. And that, as you will know, is because the marriage bond is of God & for a reason: Mark 10:7-12. You have been both physically & mentally faithful to your husband for so many years whilst under trying conditions; if at all possible, you need to go back to him & remain faithful in your vows, thereby being God's witness to him that might alert him to his errors. But if you have to leave, then God requires you to remain single. Many Christians in such a situation would prefer to re-marry, but then their position is not for us to judge.

Scabies needs to be treated quickly & the home decontaminated. Anything that might cause us to become alert to sin is useful, but not necessarily a result of it.

Christians Marriage Divorce's comment on 2020-11-06 13:39:39:

If your current husband is an unbeliever: NOT a Christian; you may be divorced on grounds of: alienation of affection.

1 Corinthians 7 teaches you and a Christian husband may declare a fast from sexual relations for a time (but not years!).

Do not commit adultery. Repent of any impure thoughts. Commit yourself to God to settle this issue. We are not constrained by Old Testament laws. Matthew 5, Jesus restates issues of divorce.

Satan is accusing you in your head. He wants everyone to be clueless and commit sexual sin.

See a Christian marriage counselor, or your Pastor. It helps in court to show you sought advise. Get your own attorney.

Commit your path to the Lord. Listen.

Mishael

Michelle's comment on 2020-11-06 12:53:39:

After reading Chapter 12 Hebrews, I'm more deeply convicted of my sin. I've been married for 35 years, 20 years without affection or sexual relations with my Husband. Many unfortunate types of manipulations and abuses, etc. And I stayed cause I wanted to triumph over this, honor my marriage, and God hates divorce. A few years passed, and I sought the Lord more diligently, more time, more prayer etc. The voice of the Holy Spirit was strong, although, my past Pastor didn't trust or believe when I reported a Jezzabel in the church and a witch oppressing prayers at that church.

Since then, I've sinned grievously and I can't hear the Holy Spirit anymore. The devil know us quite thoroughly, and there was only one person I would have been tempted with. OF course hindsight is 20/20. Good boundaries and no problems with this for my entire marriage. A happenstance of an old friend, we started speaking, and I began a relationship with him emotionally and physically. Now, I love him and want to be with this person. My character was not of someone that would do this, never would have thought I would ever do this. But here I am and sorrowful I've sinned against my Holy Heavenly Father.

I'm frightened that I may have given my Heavenly Home birthright away, and I'm destined for hell. Father God please No. Esau was sorrowful too. He grieved as I have, and I want to hear the Holy Spirit again. This chapter convicts me more- is there no hope for my salvation now? Is it lost forever? How do I know if I have fallen permanently from the Grace of God? Hell :'(

This man was divorced, but I am not. I have not had relations with my Husband for many years. Do I divorce my Husband and marry my Friend. (act of my sin, is like marriage)?

I've prayed to God for help, and have spoken of regret and help to know what to do. The last 6 weeks, my friend & home have scabies and I caught them. :'( Can I make this right by marrying my new love? Are the pests warnings and of what?

HELP please

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