Romans 7:21

“I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.”
King James Version (KJV)

Other Translations of Romans 7:21

I find then a Law, that when I would do good, euil is present with me.
- King James Version (1611) - Compare to scan of original Romans chapter 7

I find then the principle that evil is present in me, the one who wants to do good.
- New American Standard Version (1995)

I find then the law, that, to me who would do good, evil is present.
- American Standard Version (1901)

So I see a law that, though I have a mind to do good, evil is present in me.
- Basic English Bible

I find then the law upon *me* who will to practise what is right, that with *me* evil is there.
- Darby Bible

I find then a law, that when I have a will to do good, evil is present with me.
- Douay Rheims Bible

I find then a law, that when I would do good, evil is present with me.
- Webster's Bible

I find therefore the law of my nature to be that when I desire to do what is right, evil is lying in ambush for me.
- Weymouth Bible

I find then the law, that, to me, while I desire to do good, evil is present.
- World English Bible

Therfor Y fynde the lawe to me willynge to do good thing, for yuel thing lieth to me.
- Wycliffe Bible

I find, then, the law, that when I desire to do what is right, with me the evil is present,
- Youngs Literal Bible

adam's comment on 2023-01-01 09:49:44:

The reason a higher % of youth are deciding they're gay, trans, or whatever, is because they're psychologically groomed by motivated parents and teachers. They're pushed in that direction and rewarded if they say those magic words, and discouraged and and pressured if they're not. For example, wearing certain clothes or dressing up as a 2 year old means nothing in terms of a sexual identity. They're only two! They don't know about sex and don't care. They're kids playing. Most people don't even remember anything from that age.

Harsh judgment will come on any adults who groom their kids to think sexually or perverse or about disgusting sinful unnatural things. What we're seeing in the current evil society is people increasingly committing child abuse in the open and forcing others to accept that. People in society are even starting to push pedophilia and trying to normalize that. Obviously these sick evils are not from God, they are from satan. No, God rejects immorality of the world and so should Christians. One of satan's greatest lies is that people are born a certain way and therefore feel entitled to sin. That's really clever and a lot of people started believing it, but it's still a lie. Nowadays a child sees a colorful piece of clothing and puts it on and plays around and the parent is immediately ready to cut the child's body parts off- almost like offering their child as a sacrifice to a false god of the evil woke world. God is watching all of this evil unfold and many people will weep with regret if they keep turning from Him and following the world.

Matthew 18:6 "But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea."

Sammi's comment on 2023-01-01 04:25:40:

Wow , thank you for your heart open hearted post . May God bless you and may He make you His forever .

GiGi's comment on 2022-12-31 18:48:44:

Dear Rapture Man, thank you for a good response to MaxM.

Those of us who do not struggle against homosexuality like you or Max do not know how difficult to live a life where physical love and affection is off-limits due to same sex desires. This must be incredible hard to continuously repel such desires if one wants to live a godly life. It is the same for those who remain single but are hetero. They must continue to live a godly life that includes purity, chastity, and abstinence, just like those who have homosexual desires.

Those of us who are married should be careful when we try to counsel someone like MaxM. We do not know their mindset, struggles, nor the grip that homosexual desires have on a person. In your case, these desires stemmed from the long-term abuse you received throughout your childhood. You did not choose that yet even so, you are still caught in the trap of theses desires birthed from the abuse. I am sorry that you have had a lifelong struggle with this, Rapture Man.

I have three sisters who are lesbians and these desires started early in their teen lives before they really knew how to address them and overcome them. By the time they were adults they were trapped in this lifestyle. Why God allows this to happen to people at such a young age when they are not able to resist, escape abuse, or have a way to re-orient themselves is beyond me to grasp. But you are an example of one who continues to try to fight the good fight against what life has dealt to you, leaning on the strength of the Holy Spirit and the wisdom of the Word.

Thanks for sharing your story. Many of us need to hear it.

adam's comment on 2022-12-31 17:27:13:

Hello, I assume you meant to reply to MaxM and not me.

RaptureMan2023's comment on 2022-12-31 10:32:38:

MaxM, a problem guys like you and I face is that we often reach out to Christians, hoping to find someone who will affirm our sinful inclinations or lifestyle. We're not to do that. Psalm 1:1 says, "Blessed is the man that walks not in the counsel of the ungodly..." He is cursed if he does.

Too often, people who call themselves "Christians" are NOT Christ-followers. Many have never studied the Word of God from cover to cover, getting to know Gods heart. I have. Sadly, with love and concern, they wrongly counsel others, based upon their feelings and opinions. We must abide by God's laws, which are clearly against such practices: Leviticus 18: 20, 29; 20: 13; I Cor. 6: 9-11; Rev. 21: 27.

I've been struggling with same sex attraction for well over 50 years. I was molested from the age of 4-16; homosexuality was my mindset. I married (a smokescreen); before divorce ensued, I brought two daughters into the world. I've been a born again Christian for almost 57 years, but my struggle with this issue has been that long. Many times, I BEGGED God to take the desire from me. He hasn't; He says, "My grace is sufficient for you, just as it was with Paul."

Grace is not a license to commit sin; it is the bridge that keeps us connected to Him via obedience to Him.

So, what are we to do? Celibacy or marriage to a woman my friend. We cannot serve the flesh and Christ also; it doesn't work. See John 14: 15, 21-23. Paul said, "...It is good for them if they abide even as I" (celibate). But if they cannot control themselves, let them marry: for it is better to marry than to burn." I Cor. 7: 8, 9

Marriage is not for everybody; sex is, but we must control our passions (Gal. 5: 22, 23). Is A FEW MINUTES of pleasure worth eternity in Hell? God sees our sacrifice; if we obey Him, He will reward us accordingly. Born again Christians are to "Resist the devil, and he will flee from you." Ja. 4: 7;1:12. We can't love Christ and sin too. Not much time left; choose wisely!

Sammi's comment on 2022-12-31 08:40:54:

Please forgive my presumptuousness , you sound as if you are ready for marriage . You will only find true love with a Christian lady and I'm sure that there is one out there that is perfect for you and whom you are perfect for . May God bless you and her with the love and affection and respect of each other very soon .

adam's comment on 2022-12-31 06:24:22:

Hi MaxM,

We all have attraction to sin, because sin is very attractive and enticing. Satan helps make that happen and offers cute little lies to help deceive us into rationalizing it. It happened in the original sin and happens today. One of those clever little tricks is saying that my sin is my identity therefore its ok because I can't help it.

I'm going to take a risk here and say something disgusting to make a point. This is that part of me would love to commit a certain sin tonight, by entering a certain establishment and doing a certain activity. But God already said it's wrong and sin in black and white. I am a Christian and I also like this activity. But here's the deception: is that activity my identity? because I want it? Maybe it is, then I can't help it, maybe I was born to do it. Because it feels good, and I like or love it. And because of that, God made me that way and I can't help it. God wants me to love, right? I'm actually a victim actually. I'm only carrying out what God made me to do, right? Do you notice the pattern of rationalizations? Are these rationalizations true or a lie? I left this generic enough that this template can be applied to justify almost any disgusting sin that God hates like: adultery, prostitution, homosexuality, drugs, drunkenness, violence, murder, etc. Also: no one will know, it won't hurt anyone else, others do it too, if I don't, someone else will.

All these rationalizations are lies that people commonly do. Satan basically recycles the same temptations using the same flawed logic over and over, and we all struggle with and have temptations to sin. An opportunity presents itself and we have a choice. Are we going to follow God or not? Are we going to do good or not? Genuine Christ followers follow and obey Christ and are obviously to avoid all of these. The past can be forgiven, but we must stop it and sin no more if we are genuine about being a Christian and want hope for salvation. God bless.

giannis's comment on 2022-12-31 06:05:10:

Hello MaxM.

I don't know if that was God's answer to your request, but if it was then the answer is obvious, you are in the wrong path. Homosexuality is a sin according to the Word of God, like any other sin. And if one doesn't repent and keep following a sinful life then the end is definitely not Heaven, even if that person is called (or indeed is) a christian. You said you are not a super religious christian, so are you born again? Have you been baptized in water, in Spirit? Do you attend a christian congregation? If not then start doing it. Ask Jesus to come into your heart and change it. Ask Him to free you from any kind of things that keep you imprisoned in a sinful life, some things only God can do, it is not up to our own capabilities. Look for and join a christian congregation where you can be tought the Word of God properly. And follow the narrow path(God's commandments). And remember, only the 5 wise virgins made it to the marriage, the other 5 were left out. All of them were virgins(believers) but only the ready ones, the ones that had light in their lamps(a shining life) entered Heaven. GBU

FredScanlan's comment on 2022-12-31 01:06:41:

Without faith is is impossible to please Him. Picking a passage out of scripture and applying it is always good, except when you say there is the possibility of NO heaven. My friend heaven is all around you, the wind blows and you hear the sound,but you cannot tell where it comes and goes. Such are those who are born of the spirit!

Are you baptized into Christ? If not, repent and be Baptized

MaxM's comment on 2022-12-30 17:25:14:

I flipped to a random page in the Bible and asked God to give me some sort of sign or reassurance (I am Christian but not super religious at all and am not very educated about it) and got:

Romans 7:19

"For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do."

It is worth mentioning that I have strong same-sex attraction, which I am not really ashamed of, just extremely worried that I will not go to Heaven, assuming there is one, because of it. If I could turn any alleged sin into a non-sin, it would absolutely be gayness. Was this chapter a sign, do you think? What exactly could this exact passage mean in my scenerio? Do you have any advice?

Hindrances To Prayers Being Answered's comment on 2020-11-17 01:54:11:

This is a really good place to go to work through Hindrances to Prayer. I went through this years ago. I had to forgive others. I had to forgive myself.

The Cross of Christ Jesus, and His shed blood, showed on "our balance sheet", PAID IN FULL.

It's the Holy Spirits Work to help us work out our own salvation, every day. Give thanks that He's Helping us. Praise and then get quiet and listen. Faces of people who hurt me would come forward in my mind. That is who we need to pray about. You will know when you've wiped the sheet blank.

Sometimes The Accuser, will accuse that God didn't do enough. Rebuke that voice in the Name of Jesus. A day we I'll come when you will experience the freedom that is in Jesus.

Go here to see what the hindrances may be:

You can put it on your Google page by clicking/touch the ICON that has an arrow point upwards from a box. Save. That page will be in a box on your google page. It is a lot to read all at once. Get ready for miracles ... hearing Holy Spirit every day.

Website:

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David W Black's comment on 2020-11-14 13:21:17:

A few things to realize about being saved. First you must have repented as Luke 13:3 says "I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish." Luke 13:5 says the same thing. Christ told man to repent. So what is repentance? It is a request made to God, you are confessing sins, you are saying you are sorry for doing the sin, you are asking for forgiveness, AND you are stating that your opinion and mindset towards sin has changed. Repent is to change decision or your mind. So repentance includes your future actions are not to commit sin again. It's not on us alone to shun sin. You have a need to be honest with God and you must do your part to distance yourself from sin. That part is described in 2 Corinthians 7:1 "Having therefore these promises, dearly beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God." Cleansing ourselves from filthiness is not forgiving our own sins, it is removing sinful things from our lives. Former smokers throw the cigarettes out. Don't keep beer in the fridge. Don't buy the adult magazines. YOU actively do not bring the sinful thing into your life, distancing from the sins is your job.

Secondly there's a 2nd work on your spiritual man that's needed. Sanctification. This is only for those free from sin via repentance, those that do not sin still. Prayer to God again, that admits you are carnal, that you ask God to remove the carnality, and to fill your heart with the Holy Ghost/Holy Spirit which is the same part of God. Paul asked this question in Acts 19:2 "He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost." Vs 6 same chap. "And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied." Speaking in tongues were needful then but not today & it's not a sign of holiness, but a life free from sin is.

Dave's comment on 2020-10-18 19:10:22:

I just read a person on hear say they believe we can live free from sin ! Iknow i cant even though I hate to sin i do hate sin but paul says there is a great war within us our flesh is at war with the holy spirit thats with me n in me there is a desire to sin also a disire not to sin i find myself in a sin everyday i know that as long as im in this body there's no way i can live a perfect life only jesus is the one that ever lived a perfect life!

nancy ruggiano's comment on 2015-06-26 12:12:25:

Paul recognized he had no ppower to change and stop sinning because he still had to struggle with the flesh, but when he realized all his sufficiency was in christ power not his!!!!!

Keith's comment on 2014-12-23 08:32:53:

It happen so regular that it 's predictable. The moment I do good , sin is there to trip me up. I truly delight in God 's commands, but it pretty obvious that not all of me joins in that delight

Jesse's comment on 2014-11-26 13:24:09:

I agree, this is good. I believe we can live free of sin.

Roy M Donald's comment on 2014-08-25 14:01:21:

I believe what Paul is saying is true that no good thing dwells in the flesh and considering that the flesh is forever present so is evil

Roy M Donald's comment on 2014-08-25 11:57:32:

I believe what Paul is saying is true that no good thing dwells in the flesh and considering that the flesh is forever present so is evil

lopez garvin's comment on 2013-09-18 15:24:15:

even though we have been born again by the holy incorruptible seed of the word of god we still live in fleshly bodies and our flesh or the carnal nature is always trying to dictate to us what to do or obey the lust or desire of the flesh

Michael's comment on 2012-12-08 13:17:08:

I believe that our flesh is alays trying to pull our spirit to reject the goodness we desire of God. Its origin can be traced to our free will in the Torah.

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